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Onyx
02-15-2007, 10:18 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/basketball/nba/02/15/bc.bkn.hardawayremarks.ap/index.html?cnn=yes

'His words pollute the atmosphere'
Amaechi responds to Hardaway's anti-gay comments
Posted: Thursday February 15, 2007 12:31PM; Updated: Thursday February 15, 2007 6:16PM

NEW YORK (AP) -- The NBA banished Tim Hardaway from All-Star weekend in Las Vegas because of his anti-gay remarks.

Hardaway, who played in five All-Star games during the 1990s, was already in Las Vegas and scheduled to make a series of public appearances this week on behalf of the league. But after saying, "I hate gay people" during a radio interview, commissioner David Stern stepped in.

"It is inappropriate for him to be representing us given the disparity between his views and ours," Stern said in a statement Thursday.

Hardaway's comments -- for which he later apologized -- came a week after John Amaechi became the first former NBA player to say he was gay.

"I don't need Tim's comments to realize there's a problem," Amaechi told The Associated Press in a phone interview. "People said that I should just shut up and go away -- now they have to rethink that."

On a Miami radio show Wednesday, Hardaway was asked how he would interact with a gay teammate.

"First of all, I wouldn't want him on my team," the former Miami Heat star said. "And second of all, if he was on my team, I would, you know, really distance myself from him because, uh, I don't think that is right. I don't think he should be in the locker room while we are in the locker room."

When show host Dan Le Batard told Hardaway those comments were "flatly homophobic" and "bigotry," the player continued.

"You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people," he said. "I'm homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States."

Hardaway also said if he did find out that a teammate was gay, he would ask for the player to be removed from the team.

"Something has to give," Hardaway said. "If you have 12 other ballplayers in your locker room that's upset and can't concentrate and always worried about him in the locker room or on the court or whatever, it's going to be hard for your teammates to win and accept him as a teammate."

Later that night, Hardaway apologized during a telephone interview with WSVN-TV in Miami.

"Yes, I regret it. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said I hate gay people or anything like that," he said. "That was my mistake."

Two major gay and lesbian groups denounced Hardaway's remarks.

"Hardaway's comments are vile, repulsive, and indicative of the climate of ignorance, hostility and prejudice that continues to pervade sports culture," said Neil Giuliano, president of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation. "And by apologizing not for his bigotry, but rather for giving voice to it, he's reminding us that this ugly display is only the tip of a very large iceberg."

Said Matt Foreman, president of the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force: "Hardaway is a hero to thousands of young people. And that's what makes his comments so troubling. Sadly, his words simply put the pervasive homophobia in the NBA on the table."

Amaechi, who detailed his life in his recent autobiography Man in the Middle, hoped his coming out would be a catalyst for intelligent discourse.

"His words pollute the atmosphere," Amaechi said. "It creates an atmosphere that allows young gays and lesbians to be harassed in school, creates an atmosphere where in 33 states you can lose your job, and where anti-gay and lesbian issues are used for political gain. It's an atmosphere that hurts all of us, not just gay people."

Amaechi taped a spot Thursday for PBS' gay and lesbian program In the Life before heading to a round of television interviews. He said the anti-gay sentiment remains despite the apology.

"It's vitriolic, and may be exactly what he feels," he said. "Whether he's honest or not doesn't inoculate us from his words. It's not progress to hear hateful words."

Amaechi said he hasn't heard from any ex-teammates, but called it "heartwarming" to hear supportive words from Boston Celtics coach Doc Rivers, who coached Amaechi in Orlando, and other training staff.

The 6-foot-10 Amaechi played for Cleveland, Orlando and Utah in a five-year NBA career.

"It's difficult for straight people in a hyper-masculine role to stand up for gay people," he said. "When people start talking about gay players being bold and stepping up, let's talk about straight players being bold and stepping up."

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I am so glad that the NBA is standing up against this hate - and they acted right away rather than let his comments just stand. Good for them, and SHAME on Hardaway.

Marzipan
02-16-2007, 06:35 AM
Of all the professional athletes out there, NBA players always strike me as particularly ignorant, bratty, and downright dangerous. Nasty piece of work, that Hardaway. Maybe he and Carmello Anthony can hang out that weekend.

Lori
02-16-2007, 06:44 AM
"Something has to give," Hardaway said. "If you have 12 other ballplayers in your locker room that's upset and can't concentrate and always worried about him in the locker room or on the court or whatever, it's going to be hard for your teammates to win and accept him as a teammate."

Well, that is completely rational. It's not like twelve 6'9" guys don't have a really good reason to be afraid because there's one guy who finds men sexually attractive who happens to be in the room with them.

If this is the kind of threat that Hardaway thinks people pose to the sex they find sexually attractive, then he's got other problems.

What he said was vile, but honestly I'm not sure being banished was the answer. Letting the world know how hateful and ignorant he is should be, I hope, it's own punishment.

Jejune
02-16-2007, 12:22 PM
Of all the professional athletes out there, NBA players always strike me as particularly ignorant, bratty, and downright dangerous. Nasty piece of work, that Hardaway. Maybe he and Carmello Anthony can hang out that weekend.

You know what's depressing about this? It's true since Shaq's style of play became so popular, but it used to be that NBA players seemed the most articulate men in the sports world. I remember listening raptly to interviews with Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Dr. J and thinking how smart they were and how intelligently they played. It used to be a sport of intelligence and grace, not barrel down the court and slam it in. Gah.

What a loathsome individual. I think the banning is important. It says that the NBA won't tolerate that sort of language. And honestly, that's something.

Danielle
02-16-2007, 12:48 PM
He's a total idiot and I give the NBA credit for taking the stand they did.

Desirae
02-16-2007, 02:16 PM
Wow! That's really sad. :( I will say, I don't agree with homosexual lifestyles, ( no offense to anyone, I want to be straight up about it.) but that is just hateful!

Erika
02-16-2007, 02:40 PM
That has to be the most vile homophobic rant I've heard in a long time. It is good that the NBA stood up immediately and showed that they wouldn't condone that sort of attitude. It is one thing to not agree with homosexuality but to be so hateful and poisonous in your attitude to gay people is another and unfortunately just highlights the undercurrent of homophobia that is still around.

off-kilter
02-16-2007, 05:12 PM
Really, really scary thing? He was not "ranting" as in a emotionally knee-jerk stupid-things-come-out-when-you're-upset kind of way. I heard his remarks repeated on tape and he was stating these things in a calm, almost thoughtful manner.

It's chilling to think about the implications of being able to speak about the "hate" in your heart so comfortably, casually, and confidently in what you know is a public interview. Speaks volumes about what is left unsaid and the community's general acceptance of such views.

Danielle
02-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Really, really scary thing? He was not "ranting" as in a emotionally knee-jerk stupid-things-come-out-when-you're-upset kind of way. I heard his remarks repeated on tape and he was stating these things in a calm, almost thoughtful manner.

It's chilling to think about the implications of being able to speak about the "hate" in your heart so comfortably, casually, and confidently in what you know is a public interview. Speaks volumes about what is left unsaid and the community's general acceptance of such views.

ITA. He really thought this was acceptable. Sick, just sick.

Brooke
02-16-2007, 06:42 PM
Really, really scary thing? He was not "ranting" as in a emotionally knee-jerk stupid-things-come-out-when-you're-upset kind of way. I heard his remarks repeated on tape and he was stating these things in a calm, almost thoughtful manner.

It's chilling to think about the implications of being able to speak about the "hate" in your heart so comfortably, casually, and confidently in what you know is a public interview. Speaks volumes about what is left unsaid and the community's general acceptance of such views.

That was put very nicely, and I totally agree.

Kristi
02-16-2007, 07:03 PM
:rolleyes He is just making him self look silly. Sadly enough there are lots of people out there who agreed with him.

Onyx
02-18-2007, 10:17 PM
You know what's depressing about this? It's true since Shaq's style of play became so popular, but it used to be that NBA players seemed the most articulate men in the sports world. I remember listening raptly to interviews with Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, and Dr. J and thinking how smart they were and how intelligently they played. It used to be a sport of intelligence and grace, not barrel down the court and slam it in. Gah.


Very true - when it was Magic, Larry and Michael Jordon they all came across as respectful and loved the game. No stand brawls with them.

Jo
02-18-2007, 10:25 PM
I am so not an NBA fan anymore. I haven't been since the Bullets became the Wizards for PC reasons. But anytime I hear about the NBA, it is just trash. I can't even respect the league anymore since they allowed it to degenerate to such a pathetic level. I guess the higher ups are making the best money making move by banning him but they allow so much other crap for the sake of money that it really scores no points with me.

Victoria
02-19-2007, 01:50 PM
I think the NBA did the right thing, you can't have someone spouting such hate represent your organization.

Victoria
02-19-2007, 01:51 PM
And what's the diff btwn a gay dude in the locker room and women newsreporters in the locker room (provided the women are hetero).

off-kilter
02-21-2007, 10:05 AM
Fallout from Hardaway's spiel: George Takei (Mr Sulu from Star Trek) responds. (http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/02/20/a-gay-response-to-the-tim-hardaway-mess/) (maybe not work safe, but it's a soft call)

Marzipan
02-21-2007, 12:54 PM
I was just coming to post that! Oh, George Takei, how I love thee!

Lori
02-21-2007, 01:08 PM
That was too funny.

As another addendum to this, there was an editorial (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070218/COL22/702180665/1081/COL) in the Detroit Free Press this weekend that I thought made a very good point:

But since Hardaway's comments caused such a national furor, I think it's important to understand something:

This is not a big deal.

Of course Hardaway's comments were unconscionable. Of the hundreds of players who were asked about having a gay teammate in the wake of former journeyman John Amaechi's coming-out party, one of them was bound to say something horribly offensive. Hardaway just happened to win the homophobia sweepstakes. He isn't even an active player anymore.

Far more attention was paid to Hardaway's comments than those of Shaquille O'Neal, who said he would not only play with a gay teammate, but would protect him. In regard to the essential question raised by Amaechi's announcement -- whether the NBA would accept a gay active player -- Shaq's comments are far more revealing.

Pro sports can indeed join the rest of society in allowing gay people to perform their jobs without hiding who they are. The Tim Hardaways of the world might not like it, but the Shaqs of the world will make sure they live with it.

I do think it's a shame that what gets highlighted in this is the one set of awful, hateful comments, rather than the positive ways in which other people responded.

Danielle
02-21-2007, 01:53 PM
That's so true Lori. I do find it sad that a gay player would need "protection" though...

Jenny
02-21-2007, 03:31 PM
that is just disgracefull. Like others have said, I have no enjoyment out of basketball anymore. I used to enjoy watching legends play, but now....no way

off-kilter
02-21-2007, 04:10 PM
In my tiny awareness of the athletic world, I've always been a bit impressed with the way Shaq handles his conduct off the court. That clip gave me a warm fuzzy, Lori! Thanks!

Danielle
02-21-2007, 04:26 PM
I finally got the chance to watch the clip... LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jejune
02-21-2007, 10:50 PM
Shaq can back up those words with action. He defended a gay couple in Florida who were being harassed.

I think I'm in love with Sulu now.